Best in Slot Guide for BfA

Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide

Game Patch
BfA 8.3.7
Last Updated
August 5, 2020

Welcome to our World of Warcraft Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide (Arena and Battlegrounds) for Battle of Azeroth Patch 8.3. We covered best Talents, Stats, Gear (BiS), Gems, Azerite Powers & Azerite Essences, Races, Consumables, Rotation. This guide is constantly updated to show latest data for 2v2, 3v3 and RBG.

You can use this guide as a solid starting point for building your character, and later adjust things to your liking.

Ladder

Talents

15
Weaponmaster
Find Weakness
Gloomblade
30
Nightstalker
Subterfuge
Shadow Focus
45
Vigor
Deeper Stratagem
Marked for Death
60
Soothing Darkness
Cheat Death
Elusiveness
75
Shot in the Dark
Night Terrors
Prey on the Weak
90
Dark Shadow
Alacrity
Enveloping Shadows
100
Master of Shadows
Secret Technique
Shuriken Tornado

PvP Talents

Talents

15
Weaponmaster
Find Weakness
Gloomblade
30
Nightstalker
Subterfuge
Shadow Focus
45
Vigor
Deeper Stratagem
Marked for Death
60
Soothing Darkness
Cheat Death
Elusiveness
75
Shot in the Dark
Night Terrors
Prey on the Weak
90
Dark Shadow
Alacrity
Enveloping Shadows
100
Master of Shadows
Secret Technique
Shuriken Tornado

PvP Talents

Talents

15
Weaponmaster
Find Weakness
Gloomblade
30
Nightstalker
Subterfuge
Shadow Focus
45
Vigor
Deeper Stratagem
Marked for Death
60
Soothing Darkness
Cheat Death
Elusiveness
75
Shot in the Dark
Night Terrors
Prey on the Weak
90
Dark Shadow
Alacrity
Enveloping Shadows
100
Master of Shadows
Secret Technique
Shuriken Tornado

PvP Talents

Stats

Mastery
Versatility
Critical Strike
Haste

Gear

Note: This list contains basic versions of each item (with baseline item levels), you should try to get the highest possible iLvL of each item listed here.

Back
Feet
Head
Legs
Neck
Ring
Chest
Hands
Waist
Wrist
Trinket
Main Hand
Shoulders

Stats

Mastery
Versatility
Critical Strike
Haste

Gear

Note: This list contains basic versions of each item (with baseline item levels), you should try to get the highest possible iLvL of each item listed here.

Back
Feet
Head
Legs
Neck
Ring
Chest
Hands
Waist
Wrist
Trinket
Main Hand
Shoulders

Stats

Mastery
Versatility
Haste
Critical Strike

Gear

Note: This list contains basic versions of each item (with baseline item levels), you should try to get the highest possible iLvL of each item listed here.

Back
Feet
Head
Legs
Neck
Ring
Chest
Hands
Waist
Wrist
Trinket
Main Hand
Shoulders

Races

Orc
Night Elf
Human

Consumables

Food
Rune
Flask
Potion
Ring enchant
Weapon enchant
Healing Potion

Races

Night Elf
Orc
Human

Consumables

Food
Rune
Flask
Potion
Ring enchant
Weapon enchant
Healing Potion

Races

Orc
Blood Elf
Human

Consumables

Food
Rune
Flask
Potion
Ring enchant
Weapon enchant
Healing Potion

Rotation

Use Potion
If you ever get out of combat (like between pulls in mythic+)
If you are at least 3 combo points from max. Save it for 3+ targets if the fight allows.
Always use Shadowstrike out of Vanish/Stealth
Use Potion: During Shadow Blades. Save for AoE if possible.
Use Racial Active Buff: With Symbols of Death and/or Shadow Blades
Use Trinkets: Try to use buff trinkets during Symbols of Death
Once at the start of the fight after your opening Shadowstrike to get it rolling on the target
Whenever it is available as long as Nightblade is up on the target.
Refresh Nightblade at 4+ (5+ with Deeper Stratagem) Combo Points whenever it is in the 30% refresh window
When you are at least 4 Combo Points from max and have 40+ Energy. Save for Symbols of Death, but don't let charges max out. Use up charges at the end of the fight regardless.
Use at 4+ (5+ with Deeper Stratagem) Combo Points
Vanish when you have enough Power to Shadowstrike immediately and you can benefit from the full Combo Point gain. 2 normally, 3 with Shadow Blades. Don't use if you are already in Shadow Dance.
When you need Combo Points and you can't use Shadowstrike (Stealth, Shadow Dance, Subterfuge)

Rotation

Use Potion
If you ever get out of combat (like between pulls in mythic+)
If you are at least 3 combo points from max. Save it for 3+ targets if the fight allows.
Always use Shadowstrike out of Vanish/Stealth
Use Potion: During Shadow Blades. Save for AoE if possible.
Use Racial Active Buff: With Symbols of Death and/or Shadow Blades
Use Trinkets: Try to use buff trinkets during Symbols of Death
Once at the start of the fight after your opening Shadowstrike to get it rolling on the target
Whenever it is available as long as Nightblade is up on the target.
Refresh Nightblade at 4+ (5+ with Deeper Stratagem) Combo Points whenever it is in the 30% refresh window
When you are at least 4 Combo Points from max and have 40+ Energy. Save for Symbols of Death, but don't let charges max out. Use up charges at the end of the fight regardless.
Use at 4+ (5+ with Deeper Stratagem) Combo Points
Vanish when you have enough Power to Shadowstrike immediately and you can benefit from the full Combo Point gain. 2 normally, 3 with Shadow Blades. Don't use if you are already in Shadow Dance.
When you need Combo Points and you can't use Shadowstrike (Stealth, Shadow Dance, Subterfuge)

Rotation

Use Potion
If you ever get out of combat (like between pulls in mythic+)
If you are at least 3 combo points from max. Save it for 3+ targets if the fight allows.
Always use Shadowstrike out of Vanish/Stealth
Use Potion: During Shadow Blades. Save for AoE if possible.
Use Racial Active Buff: With Symbols of Death and/or Shadow Blades
Use Trinkets: Try to use buff trinkets during Symbols of Death
Once at the start of the fight after your opening Shadowstrike to get it rolling on the target
Whenever it is available as long as Nightblade is up on the target.
Refresh Nightblade at 4+ (5+ with Deeper Stratagem) Combo Points whenever it is in the 30% refresh window
When you are at least 4 Combo Points from max and have 40+ Energy. Save for Symbols of Death, but don't let charges max out. Use up charges at the end of the fight regardless.
Use at 4+ (5+ with Deeper Stratagem) Combo Points
Vanish when you have enough Power to Shadowstrike immediately and you can benefit from the full Combo Point gain. 2 normally, 3 with Shadow Blades. Don't use if you are already in Shadow Dance.
When you need Combo Points and you can't use Shadowstrike (Stealth, Shadow Dance, Subterfuge)

Frequently Asked Questions

How is this Guide useful?
The goal of our guides is to show you the overall "optimal" options for building your character. If you do not wish to dig through walls of text then you may like our visual "cut to the chase" approach.
Where do you get this data from?
We use algorithms to parse big data chunks from Top 1% players from Arena and RBG leaderboards using the official Blizzard API. We believe that statistics is a very reliable method for determining solid choices for end-game optimization.